(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.00]
DT[2018-05-13]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AW[dc][ce][oe]AB[oc][jd][qd][qj]LB[jd:3][nd:B][oe:1][pf:A][qj:2]TR[oc][qd]C[Sabaki - strategic concept that consist in making a light, flexible shape inside your opponent's sphere of influence !
              - settling a group quickly by making a resilient shape
              - technique of handling weak stones lightCornel [6d\]: Hi
alemitrani [8k\]: Hi
Cornel [6d\]: I just noticed the comments I insert in the sgf came a bit chaotic as I merged files:(
GoDave89 [4d\]: hmm yea
Cornel [6d\]: save the file and check the sgf comments as well
Ducky [?\]: i iwll
Cornel [6d\]: cheers :)
Cornel [6d\]: sorry for being clumssy and jumping through the variations randomly
Ducky [?\]: thanks a lot 
Cornel [6d\]: first time for me to use discord and so on so thanks for the patience:)
Ducky [?\]: it opened a lot of new ideas in my go brain
Cornel [6d\]: great to hear
Ducky [?\]: lol dont worry you did great since lto of people learned new ideas
Cornel [6d\]: awesome, thx
Cornel [6d\]: have a good night
Ducky [?\]: good night :)
]
(;B[pf]
;W[nc]
;B[nb]
;W[ob]
;B[pb]TR[ob]
;W[od]
;B[pc]
;W[mb]
;B[oa]C[Cornel [6d\]: good evening
Nande [2d\]: hi
GoDave89 [4d\]: hey
]
(;W[le]TR[jd]C[White managed a succesful sabaki this way.GoDave89 [4d\]: yeah
]
;B[mc]
;W[lc]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[lb]
;W[kc]TR[jd]C[light sabaki - k16 got isolated from the top right corner for black])
(;W[md]C[alemitrani [8k\]: hi
]
;B[lc]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: yuck :D
]
;W[mc]
;B[gc]C[white is heavy like this])
(;W[mc]
;B[me]C[n15 eyestealing tesuji puts white into a heavy formation as well]))
(;B[nd]
;W[pd]
;B[pc]
;W[qe]
;B[rd]
;W[qh])
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][ce]AW[pc][qc][od][pe][of][mg][ng][mh][oh][ph][oj][pj]AB[lc][pd][qe][nf][pf][og][pg][qh][qi]
;B[oc]LB[nd:A]TR[oc]SQ[od][oe][pe][of]C[Sabaki in japanese means 'development' .
 The same meaning refers to Go when it comes to settle weak stones quickly in dangerous situations.]
(;W[me]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]
;B[rd]
(;W[ob]
;B[nc]LB[nb:B][ne:A]SQ[od][oe][pe][of]C[in this sequence white has to save the 4 stones in the middle or live in the top right corner but he can't do both in 1 play]
(;W[sb])
(;W[nb]
;B[mc]
;W[sb]
;B[ne]))
(;W[nc]
;B[ob]
;W[nb]
;B[qb]LB[nd:A]))
(;W[qf]
;B[qg]
;W[rd]
(;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[qf]
;W[me]
(;B[ob]
;W[rb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: S18
])
(;B[nc]
;W[md]SQ[md][od][me][oe]
;B[pb]
;W[qb]
;B[ob]
;W[rb]TR[qc][oe]C[both the corner and p15 group survived this way]))
(;B[re]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: ouch
]
;W[rf])))
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][qd][ce][oe][qj]AW[qf][kq][nq][pr]AB[jc][nd][pd][pn][pp][qq]TR[qf]C[How can black attack the marked stone to prevent white from making sabaki ?Ducky [?\]: kick works?
GoDave89 [4d\]: soo, just kick?
Ducky [?\]: instewad of giving white space to run and some corner
]
(;B[qe]
;W[pf]
(;B[qi]LB[qe:1][pf:2][qi:3][pj:B][qj:A]C[White can't extend ideal at A or B for a base, instead the 2 stones are heavy now]
;W[oi]
;B[pk]TR[pf][qf][oi]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: hmm, R12?
]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: cut
]
;W[ri]
;B[rj]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: and you want to not hold on to any stone ;)
]
;W[pi]
(;B[si]
;W[qj]
;B[ri]
;W[ok]
;B[pl])
(;B[qj]
;W[rg]
;B[si]
(;W[qc]
;B[re]
;W[oc]
;B[od]
;W[nb]
;B[nc]
;W[ob]
;B[mb]
;W[rb]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]
;B[qh]
;W[nf]C[Ducky [?\]: so u  want a result that ends in 1 white restricted group?
])
(;W[pg])
(;W[dp]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]C[Ducky [?\]: so maybe direct pincer was better?
]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]
;B[qh]
;W[re]
;B[rd]
;W[nf])))
(;B[dp]
;W[qj])
(;B[pi]
;W[ng]))
(;B[qi]C[if black plays the pincer directly..GoDave89 [4d\]: I'm not sure how much I should say ^^
GoDave89 [4d\]: R16
Ducky [?\]: direct pincer give white hte corner and cut the stone somehow?
]
(;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[rc]
(;B[pc]
;W[re]C[white can make sabaki this way])
(;B[qe]
;W[rd]
;B[pe]
(;W[pc]
;B[qb]
;W[pb]
;B[rb]
;W[sb]
;B[re]
;W[qa])
(;W[re]
;B[qb]
(;W[rg])
(;W[pf]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[pk]
;W[nf]))))
(;W[qc]
;B[qd]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[rc]
;B[qe]
;W[ob]
;B[nb]
;W[oc]
;B[nc])))
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][qd][ce][oe][qj]C[Cornel [6d\]: ...
]
;B[po]
;W[dd]
;B[do]
;W[dq]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[ep]
;W[fq]
;B[dr]
;W[cr]
;B[fr]
;W[ds]
;B[gq]
;W[qd]
;B[fp]
;W[od]
;B[qj]
;W[pq]
;B[qq]TR[pq]C[this is a position from an amateur game, how should white make sabaki on the bottom side ?]
;W[qr]
;B[qp]TR[pq]SQ[qj]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: N3
]
(;W[or]C[this shape is common to fix eyes but black can attack strongly as he already has r10 middle side extension in place]
(;B[nq]
;W[op]
;B[mp]
;W[oo]
;B[mn]
;W[mm]
;B[pm]
;W[nn]
;B[ln]
;W[nl]TR[qj]C[White is heavy and still on the run])
(;B[pm]
;W[lq]))
(;W[nq]SQ[nq]C[o3 is a light jump and white can make sabaki next]
(;B[rr]
;W[kq]
;B[pr]
;W[or]
;B[qs]C[white succeeded to fix a light shape inside black's moyo])
(;B[lq]
;W[rr]C[White is happy to secure eye shape this way as well.]
;B[pm]))
(;W[mq]
;B[rr]
;W[jq]
;B[or]
;W[nr]
;B[oq]TR[ep][fp][eq][gq][fr]C[Ducky [?\]: nice
]))
(;AE[dc][oc][qd][ce][oe][qj]AW[nc][dd][jd][cn][po][dp]AB[pd][pf][qk][jp][fq][pq]TR[po]C[Ducky [?\]: great lecture, i would never out of the blue have considered such benetifs to contact plays at my level
]
(;B[qp]LB[qp:1]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: P4 or P3 with ladder :)
]
(;W[qo]
;B[np]TR[qk]
;W[qm]
;B[ok]TR[qm][po][qo]C[White is heavy and overconcentrated ])
(;W[op]
(;B[oq]
;W[mp]
;B[nq]C[Ducky [?\]: yeah i read this in vital points forgot the author
]
(;W[mm]SQ[mm][po][mp][op]C[White managed to make sabaki !]
;B[np]
;W[no]
;B[mo]
;W[lo]
;B[mn]
;W[nn]TR[dd])
(;W[mn]C[clywzach [2k\]: is o4 too thin?
clywzach [2k\]: if you play that first
]
;B[np]
;W[no]
;B[lo]
;W[mo]
;B[on]
;W[oo]
;B[ml]LB[nn:A][pp:B]TR[mn][mo][no][oo][po][op]C[Ducky [?\]: regisn
]))
(;B[cf]
;W[oq]
;B[qo]
;W[lq]))
(;W[np]
;B[op]
;W[oo]
;B[no]))
(;B[np]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: yeah,this is like the first I learned ^^
]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[rr]
;W[qm]
(;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[on]
;W[pn]
;B[pl]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]
;W[rl]
;B[qj]
;W[pm])
(;B[ok]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]
;W[rl]
;B[qi])))
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][qd][ce][oe][qj]AW[ec][pd]AB[nc][cd][de]
;B[gc]TR[ec]C[White wants to use the marked stone to make sabaki in the top!]
(;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[fe]
;B[dc]
;W[eb]
;B[jd]TR[eb][ec][fd][fe]C[trying to escape like this it's too heavy for white and black will profit while chasing..])
(;W[ic]
;B[fd]C[j17 it's a bit uninspired as white doesn't have more forcing moves left in the corner area]
;W[lc])
(;W[hc]C[this tsuke ( contact play ) leads to sabaki]
(;B[gd]
;W[gb]
;B[fb]
(;W[hb]
;B[fc]
;W[lc]TR[ec][nc]C[white gets more forcing moves this way and the result it's pretty good])
(;W[ib]
;B[ga]
;W[hb]
;B[fc]
(;W[kc])
(;W[lc])))
(;B[gb]
;W[gd]
;B[fd]
;W[hb]
;B[fc]
;W[lc]C[similar result-white is satisfied])
(;B[hb]
;W[gd]
;B[ic]
;W[hd]
;B[fc]
;W[fd]
;B[ed]C[Ducky [?\]: yeah the alternativesa with sabaki look way better than the heavy shape 
GoDave89 [4d\]: J18 I guess 
]
(;W[ib]
(;B[gb]
(;W[jc]C[white compensates on the outside for losing e17 stone in the corner]
(;B[eb]
(;W[id])
(;W[ke]))
(;B[dc]))
(;W[jb]
(;B[dc])
(;B[eb]C[Ducky [?\]: ah ok
]
(;W[jd])
(;W[kd]))))
(;B[jb]
;W[gb]
;B[ia]
;W[eb])
(;B[fb]C[alemitrani [8k\]: nice
]
(;W[gb]
;B[ga])
(;W[ha]
;B[gb]
;W[jc]C[Ducky [?\]: lets say the ladders donest work
GoDave89 [4d\]: looks familiar:D
]
;B[dc])))
(;W[gb]
;B[fb]
;W[ib]
;B[ga]
;W[jc]))
(;B[hd]
(;W[gb]
;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[fb]
;W[gd]
;B[fc]
;W[he]C[ladder works and this is again a sabaki for white])
(;W[ic]
;B[gd]
;W[lc]))))
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][qd][ce][oe][qj]AW[ec][pd]AB[cd][df]LB[ec:1][df:2]TR[de]
;B[gc]TR[ec]C[White can try a sabaki next with the marked stone , how to proceed ?GoDave89 [4d\]: D16?
]
(;W[cc]C[Ducky [?\]: or k16
GoDave89 [4d\]: just hane ^^
]
;B[bc]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: hi xhu ^^
xhu98 [3d?\]: Hi GoDave89
GoDave89 [4d\]: haha   - mentioning bots and "I'll be back"
GoDave89 [4d\]: perfect
]
(;W[dd]C[xhu98 [3d?\]: I'm cute weak KGS 3d o.O
GoDave89 [4d\]: :O
GoDave89 [4d\]: yepp^^
]
;B[cb]
(;W[ce]
;B[dc]
;W[bd]
;B[cc]
;W[de]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: don't worry, I'm fake 4d too - just the other way :P
]
;B[ed]
;W[ee]
;B[fd]TR[ec]C[locally this result is not so great for white])
(;W[dc]
;B[ce]C[white is too heavy-this shape must be avoided !])
(;W[db]
;B[dc]C[ko can be hard to handle for white early in fuseki cause of lack of threats..]))
(;W[bd]C[cross-cut is often a good sabaki technique !alemitrani [8k\]: hasta la vista
]
;B[be]
;W[dd]
(;B[ce]
;W[bb]
;B[ad]
;W[db])
(;B[ad]
;W[ce]
;B[bd]
;W[ef]
;B[de]
;W[ee]
;B[dg]
;W[ic]TR[gc]))
(;W[bb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: yeah - important to note that extending is rarely used for sabaki^^
]
(;B[dc]
;W[cb]
;B[dd]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[ac]C[white lives and it's satisfied with this result])
(;B[cb]C[black plays strongly here]
;W[dc]
(;B[ab]
(;W[gd]LB[hc:A][bd:B]
(;B[hd]
;W[fd]LB[hc:B][bd:A]C[white has miai points at A,BDucky [?\]: yeah u want to get out as to not be excluded from the game
]
;B[ic]
;W[bd]
;B[ba]
;W[ce]TR[cd]C[white managed sabaki capturing the marked stone])
(;B[be]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: does white extend at B19?
]
;W[hc]C[white makes sabaki againGoDave89 [4d\]: in the other variations?
]))
(;W[ba]
(;B[be]
;W[db]
;B[fb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: hmm, right
])
(;B[ca]
;W[gd]
;B[hd]
;W[fd]
;B[ic]
;W[bd]
;B[aa]
;W[ce]
;B[fb])))
(;B[ba]
;W[ab]
;B[ac]
;W[bd]
;B[aa]
;W[ce]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: right
]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[da]))))
(;W[dd]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: C17 seems normal then
]
;B[cc]C[LastPoet [-\]: c12 first then d16 is ok ?
]
;W[ce]
;B[de]
;W[cf]
;B[cg]SQ[ec][dd][ce][cf])
(;W[ch]
;B[dc]
;W[ed]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: ah, right, different situation^^
]
;B[fe])
(;W[fd]C[Ducky [?\]: im thking aobut k17 for some reason
])
(;W[jc]
;B[dc]))
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][qd][ce][oe]AW[pd][pf][cj][qj][cn][pn][pp][jq]AB[jc][nc][cd][ed][ch][ql][dp][fq]TR[ql]C[What is the best way for Black's marked stone to make sabaki on the right side ?alemitrani [8k\]: R6?
GoDave89 [4d\]: R11 yes sorry
GoDave89 [4d\]: it is not really an exchange now ^^
]
(;B[ol]
;W[oj]
;B[ml]
(;W[kl]C[simply going out like this isn't great as white can build while attacking the floating black groupGoDave89 [4d\]: haha, I understood "he's simply throwing (the game)"
]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]
;B[mj]
;W[ok]
;B[nl]
;W[kj]
;B[mi]C[alemitrani [8k\]: floating, I heard
])
(;W[qm]
;B[rl]
;W[kl]C[Ducky [?\]: her u make white strong
]))
(;B[qi]C[this attach looks promissing to make sabaki next
r11 is a tesuji !GoDave89 [4d\]: uuh
GoDave89 [4d\]: so follow up question
]
(;W[pj]C[if white simply nobi here black can play s10 forcing move and fix eye shape in the top]
;B[rj]
;W[rk]C[Ducky [?\]: hmm yeah both sides are open
alemitrani [8k\]: S12
]
(;B[rh]
;W[qk]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]
;B[qd]C[this result is good enough as black damaged the top area])
(;B[ri]
;W[qk]
;B[rf]
;W[qe]))
(;W[pi]
;B[rj]C[double hane is often a good technique when going for sabakiGoDave89 [4d\]: ok ^^
]
(;W[ri]
;B[qh]
;W[rk]
;B[pj]
;W[qk]C[Ducky [?\]: r5 to r4 was my idea but in this case it works on the other side
]
;B[oi]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]
;W[oh]
;B[og]
;W[nh]
;B[qg]TR[pd][pf][pj][rj][ql]C[black is happy with this result as white's marked stones became thinGoDave89 [4d\]: as I don't have R10 in my mind usually
])
(;W[qh]
;B[ri]
;W[pj]
;B[rh]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[qe]
;W[qf]
;B[rn]C[black lived on the side, the result is succesful for him as he broke white's moyo]))
(;W[rj]
;B[pj]
(;W[pk]
;B[qk]
;W[pi]
;B[oj]
;W[qh]
;B[oi]
;W[ph]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: P7/8
]
;B[om]TR[qi][pk]C[black's stones work nice together in this trade])
(;W[pi]C[if white cuts directly..]
;B[ri]
;W[pk]
;B[oj]
;W[qk]
;B[ok]
;W[pl]
;B[ph]TR[pi][ql]C[ladder works and black is satisfied with this trade]))
(;W[ri]))
(;B[qn]
;W[qo]
;B[pm]
;W[rn]C[alemitrani [8k\]: OK
]
(;B[qm])
(;B[rm]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: yeah -take the shape away instead - so R5 ;)
]
;W[qm]))
(;B[qo]C[Ducky [?\]: i was thking about r5
Ducky [?\]: maybe 1st go down?
]
;W[po]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: when do you use that?
]
(;B[qn]
;W[qp]
;B[pm]
;W[rm]
(;B[qm]
;W[oj]
;B[nm]
;W[mp])
(;B[rl]))
(;B[qp]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: and don#t see it ever in my games
]
;W[qq]C[alemitrani [8k\]: S7?
]
(;B[rq])
(;B[rm]
;W[rq]
;B[ol]
;W[oj]
;B[ml]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]C[alemitrani [8k\]: OK
]
;W[kl]))
(;B[rp]
(;W[rm]
;B[qm]
;W[rl]
;B[qn]
;W[qq])
(;W[qq]
(;B[qm])
(;B[qk]
;W[pj]
;B[ol])
(;B[qc]
;W[pc]C[alemitrani [8k\]: nice
]
;B[pb]
;W[qd]
;B[rb]
;W[rc]
;B[qb]SQ[ql][qo][rp]C[Ducky [?\]: weak plus u have to play additional moves and white anc make a mojo in the bottlom
alemitrani [8k\]: R7?
Antimon [2d\]: s6?
]
(;W[rm]
;B[qm]
;W[rl]
;B[qn]
;W[qk]
;B[ol])
(;W[qm]
;B[rm]
;W[pl]
;B[qk]
;W[pk]
;B[rj])
(;W[rn]
;B[qn]
;W[qm]
;B[rm]
;W[pm]
(;B[rl]
;W[ro]
;B[qp]
;W[rq])
(;B[sn]
;W[rl]
;B[ro]
(;W[pl])
(;W[rk]
(;B[rq])
(;B[bp]
;W[rq]
;B[sp]))))))))
(;AE[qj][ql]AW[qi][qo]AB[qk][ol][qm][rn]
(;B[rj])
(;B[ri])
(;B[qh]
(;W[qg]
;B[rh]
;W[ph]
;B[ri]
;W[rg]
;B[pi]
;W[oi]
;B[pj]C[Ducky [?\]: white potential is alreaydh diminisehd it seems
])
(;W[ph]
;B[ri]
(;W[qg]
;B[rh]
;W[pc]
;B[rg]
;W[rf])
(;W[rh]
;B[qg]
;W[rj]
;B[pg])))
(;B[qg]
;W[pg]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: hmm, was about to ask about R1^3^^
]
;B[qh]
;W[ph]
;B[ri]
;W[qf])))
(;AE[oc][jd][qd][ce][oe][qj]AW[hc][nc][kd][cf]AB[fc][pd][qf][dj]TR[fc]C[How should black use the marked stone in the top? should he run or make sabaki in the corner ?GoDave89 [4d\]: ah
GoDave89 [4d\]: yeah, this is a beauty :)
]
(;B[cc]
(;W[dd]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[be]C[this is a common sabaki sequence, black sacrifices f17 to take away the corner]
;W[ce]
;B[bf]TR[fc])
(;W[db]C[if black tries to attack more severe black will get more profit in the corneralemitrani [8k\]: C16
Ducky [?\]: d16?
]
(;B[ce]
;W[de]
;B[dd]
;W[ed]
;B[cd]
;W[ec]
;B[df]
;W[ee]
;B[cg]
;W[bf]
;B[bg]
;W[ef]
;B[dg]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]
;W[ba]
;B[bc]TR[fc])
(;B[dd]
;W[cd]C[Ducky [?\]: then when cut atari
]
;B[ce]
;W[bd]C[Ducky [?\]: looks meh
]
(;B[ed]
;W[be]
;B[ef])
(;B[be]
;W[de]
;B[ed]
;W[bf]
;B[bc]
;W[ae]
;B[cb]TR[db][dc]C[Ducky [?\]: nice
Ducky [?\]: i like this result
]
;W[ba]
;B[eb]
;W[ca]
;B[ec]
;W[da]
;B[ea]
;W[ac]
;B[ff]))
(;B[cd]
;W[dd]
;B[ce]
;W[de]
;B[bf]
;W[cg]
;B[bg]
;W[ch]
;B[cb]))
(;W[cb]
(;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]C[alemitrani [8k\]: d18
Ducky [?\]: c15
GoDave89 [4d\]: D18 then?
]
(;B[ec]
;W[db]
;B[ce]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[ac]C[Ducky [?\]: ah wrong order
GoDave89 [4d\]: it is an ugly duckling :P
]
;B[de]LB[db:2][ec:1]TR[cf]C[c14 is hurt and black is happy with the outside thicknessDucky [?\]: lol
])
(;B[db]
;W[ec]
(;B[eb]
;W[ed]
;B[bd]
;W[ce]
;B[ab]
;W[ba]
(;B[ca]
;W[da]
;B[ea]
;W[fb]
;B[ca])
(;B[fd]
;W[ee]
;B[da]
;W[fb]
;B[gb]
;W[be]
;B[fa]
;W[ad]))
(;B[ed]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[da]
;B[ce]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[ac]
(;B[fd]
;W[bf]
;B[ae]
(;W[de])
(;W[ef]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[de]
;W[ch]C[Ducky [?\]: who ny f15?
]))
(;B[fe]
;W[gd]
;B[fd]
;W[bf]
;B[ae]
;W[ef]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[de]
;W[ch]TR[ed][fd][fe]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: not sabaki^^^
Ducky [?\]: ugly
]))))
(;B[cd]
;W[dd]
;B[bb]
;W[db]
;B[ce]
;W[de]
;B[bf]
;W[bg]
;B[cg]
;W[df]
;B[be]
;W[bh]
;B[ba]
;W[dh]))
(;W[cd]C[Ducky [?\]: d16 seemsto be a vital points what if white plays it
]
;B[db]
;W[cb]
;B[bc]
;W[eb]
;B[dd]
;W[ec]
;B[ce]
;W[de]
;B[bd]
;W[ed]
;B[bb]
;W[da]
;B[bf]C[black lives in the corner, is good enough]))
(;B[fe]
;W[ed]
;B[fd]
;W[he]SQ[fc][fd][fe]C[running out makes black heavy-not great]))
(;AE[dc][jd][ce][oe][qj]AW[oc][gd][qd][qg]AB[dd][id][ld]
;B[cf]TR[gd]C[how can white use the marked stone to make sabaki ?Ducky [?\]: k16
]
(;W[dc]
(;B[cc]
;W[ed]
(;B[de]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: C18:)
alemitrani [8k\]: d18
]
(;W[eb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: E18ok
]
(;B[cb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: :D
]
;W[ic]C[alemitrani [8k\]: atari-itis
]
;B[jc]
;W[ib]SQ[jc][id][ld]C[White settled quite nice in the topGoDave89 [4d\]: I don't remember what I thought :D
])
(;B[db]
;W[ec]
(;B[cb]LB[fc:A]TR[db][ec]C[alemitrani [8k\]: ok
])
(;B[bb]
(;W[da]
;B[cb]
;W[ic]
;B[jc]
;W[ib]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: just asking for a friend :P
])
(;W[cb]
;B[ca]
;W[cd]
;B[bc]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: right:)
]))))
(;W[cb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: yeah
]
;B[db]
;W[ec]
;B[bb]TR[cf]
;W[cd]
;B[bc]
;W[eb]
;B[ca]
(;W[ff])
(;W[gf]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: hmm - so why is this giving more than E18 directly`
])))
(;B[ec]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: and gave up move 41^^
]
;W[db]
(;B[cb]
;W[eb]
;B[fc]
;W[cd]
;B[de]
;W[fb]
;B[gc]
;W[bd]SQ[cb][cc]C[white lives in the corner this way]
;B[bc]
;W[ab]
;B[ac]
;W[ca]
(;B[ba]
;W[da]
;B[be]
;W[ad])
(;B[da]
(;W[ba]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: haha
]
;B[gb]
;W[ad])
(;W[ea]
;B[ba]
;W[ad]
;B[da]
;W[gb]
;B[hc]
;W[ca])))
(;B[eb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: hmm, so why not C18 in this case for white?
]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]
;W[fc]TR[eb][ec]C[white is alive again, sabaki succeededGoDave89 [4d\]: geeeegeeee
]
;B[ee]
;W[fd]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: haha
]
;B[bb]
;W[fb]
;B[ca]
;W[ea]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: a 3d played this against me
GoDave89 [4d\]: ....
]))
(;B[cd]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]))
(;B[ec]
;W[eb]
;B[cc]
;W[db]
;B[fc]
;W[cd]
;B[bd]
;W[ed]
;B[ce]
;W[fd]TR[ec][fc]C[white lives comfortably taking the 2 marked stones , this result is bad for black]))
(;W[gf]C[it's easy to escape but the 2 stones are still floating]
;B[ec])
(;W[cc]
;B[dc]
;W[db]
;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[ec]
;W[be]
;B[bf]
;W[ce]
;B[de]
;W[cd]
;B[eg]TR[gd]C[g16 seems like a waste here]))
(;AE[dc][oc][qd][ce][oe][qj]AW[nc][dd][fd][jd][ge]AB[hd][pd][cf][pf][di][pj]LB[ge:1]TR[hd]C[Black's marked stone is under pressure after white plays kosumi at 1, how should black continue ?GoDave89 [4d\]: L16 :P
GoDave89 [4d\]: (jk)
]
(;B[he]
;W[hf]
;B[ie]C[black can run out this way but it's heavy and ugly ])
(;B[ie]
;W[je]
;B[if]
;W[id]
;B[he]
;W[hc]TR[he][ie][if]C[this way black is heavy too and white is happy to link under and build the top side..])
(;B[jc]
;W[kc]
;B[kd]
(;W[lc]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: k15 :)    and yeah it is awesome
]
;B[je]
;W[id]
;B[ie]
;W[ic]
;B[hc]
;W[ib]
;B[hb]
;W[jb]
;B[he]C[this is the most effective way for black to settle shape, now white is thin in the top left corner])
(;W[je]
;B[lc]
;W[kb]C[alemitrani [8k\]: k18
]
(;B[lb]
(;W[jb]
;B[ic]
;W[ld]
;B[ke]
;W[mc]
;B[le]
;W[md]
(;B[jf]
;W[ie]
;B[he]
;W[if]
;B[hf]
;W[ig]
;B[ib]
;W[mb]
;B[hg]SQ[dd][fd][ie][if]C[black is out using the driving tesujiGoDave89 [4d\]: nice :)
])
(;B[ib]
;W[mb]))
(;W[ke]
;B[ld]
;W[ic]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[ka]))
(;B[jb]
;W[lb]
;B[ld]
;W[mc]
;B[hb]
;W[gc]
;B[hc]
;W[if]))
(;W[ic]
;B[jb]
;W[kb]
;B[id]
;W[je]
;B[ib]
(;W[gb]
;B[gc]
;W[fc]LB[hf:A][if:B]C[alemitrani [8k\]: H14
]
(;B[hf]C[black is satisfied with this result, white cant separate..]
;W[he]
;B[ie]
;W[if]
;B[jf]C[oops:)])
(;B[if]
;W[ie]
;B[he]
;W[hf]
;B[hb]
;W[fb]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: go alex- go go:)
alemitrani [8k\]: L15
]
(;B[ke]
;W[jf])
(;B[ld]
(;W[jf]C[alemitrani [8k\]: but then J13
]
;B[lb])
(;W[mc])
(;W[lc]
;B[jf]
;W[ke]
;B[le]
;W[kf]
;B[kg]
;W[lf]
;B[mf]
;W[lg]C[alemitrani [8k\]: OK
]))))
(;W[if]
;B[gb]))))
(;AE[oc][jd][oe]AB[jc][od]
;B[dp]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
(;W[rd]
;B[rc]
;W[qe]
;B[qb]
;W[qh]TR[rd][qe][qh])
(;W[qe]
;B[rd]
;W[pe]
;B[pd]
;W[qh]))
(;AE[dc][oc][jd][qd][ce][oe][qj]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[qk]
(;W[mp]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: I've always played the one space jump - my life is a lie!:D
GoDave89 [4d\]: P6 is the only move for white :P
]
(;B[po])
(;B[jp]
(;W[po])
(;W[oo]
;B[qo]
;W[gp]
;B[jn]
;W[mm]LB[jl:A][qn:B]C[LastPoet [-\]: you also had theat q4 crosscut variation iirc?
]
(;B[jl]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]
;W[po]
(;B[qp]
;W[rm]
;B[so]
(;W[pm])
(;W[pj])
(;W[mk]))
(;B[so]
;W[qp]
(;B[qq]
;W[ro])
(;B[ro]
;W[oq]
;B[qq]
;W[mk])))
(;B[pm]
;W[pp]
;B[qp]
;W[oq]
;B[pr]
;W[jl]SQ[mm][oo][mp][pp][oq]C[Ducky [?\]: u can taack better from a stable group
GoDave89 [4d\]: though now most don't pincer this any more ^^
Ducky [?\]: now if black fight ur moves wont be to loose
alemitrani [8k\]: thanks very much for the lecture
alemitrani [8k\]: very interesting
GoDave89 [4d\]: thanks
GoDave89 [4d\]: !
GoDave89 [4d\]: oh right
alemitrani [8k\]: thanks
GoDave89 [4d\]: you arein Hamburg, right?;)
alemitrani [8k\]: now to put it into practice
clywzach [2k\]: thanks!
GoDave89 [4d\]: well see you then ;
Ducky [?\]: thank you for the lecture
alemitrani [8k\]: Have fun
Antimon [2d\]: thanks
alemitrani [8k\]: good night
GoDave89 [4d\]: byeee
]))
(;W[pp]
;B[qp]C[GoDave89 [4d\]: I wonder why that is ^^
]
;W[qq])))
(;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[qc])
(;W[qc])))
